So, is it like a factory floor open for direct public engagement, so people can come do some work, unqualified, just by visiting it...? Would one get special coins or tickets for work, that one could spend on the coffee shop and supermarket? Or, is it something different?
How would this actually work with varying number of people coming to visit it, and varying work skills? Would these be web-based, or local physical works? How would such place be managed to function properly?
So, is it like a factory floor open for direct public engagement, so people can come do some work, unqualified, just by visiting it...? Would one get special coins or tickets for work, that one could spend on the coffee shop and supermarket? Or, is it something different? There would be payments at the end of your shift or at the end of the week if that's cheaper. You'd think exchanging money would be cheap!
Yes! These jobs don't require much training. Making a coffee for someone is easy. Stacking shelves is easy but hard work.
It would be local physical work. There would be people, deliberately not called managers who would provide guidance and simple training.
// open for direct public engagement, so people can come do some work, unqualified, just by visiting it...?
I like the low barrier of entry in this idea. It reminds me cooperatives (all members share profit) and community gardens (come to work anytime, with no money earned though, just for community bonding).
I guess people would want to do the work without prior training, but would it be enough work for all who want it? Say a coffee shop needs 5 people to serve coffee, then what do other 50 people work as? And what if 10 people want to work at the same time?
Overall, this idea seems to be about people's freedom to create jobs for themselves when they feel like working. So I wonder, what other work could be imagined in such local economies? I think adding a layer of meaning would make this idea stronger. What do people in local communities need? Based on needs various spaces with various jobs could be created. Say, local communities decide they want more beautiful spaces to enjoy nature in their neighbourhoods, so they design gardens and do the planting together, or restablish wilderness parks, or create makerspaces to play with the tools, marketplaces to sell what they make, and so on.
A question comes here on how would people locally self-organise to work on creating these spaces together? So that they could work in these spaces when they feel like it after.
You could have a website where people register their interest to work on a certain day and then random number people are picked. That's for the case there being 50 people wanting to work but only 5 spaces.
It might have to be just in time scheduling so it's always the day before that the schedule gets set. It might be inconvenient. You've got a lot of people chasing a few jobs.
Could have nailbars, landscaping services, bars, restaurants.
那麼,它是不是像一個開放給公衆直接參與的工廠車間,這樣人們就可以通過參觀它來做一些不合格的工作......?一個人會得到可以在咖啡店和超市消費的特殊硬幣或工作票嗎?或者,有什麼不同嗎?
對於不同數量的參觀者和不同的工作技能,這實際上如何運作?這些是基於網絡的還是本地的實體作品?如何管理這樣的地方正常運作?
So, is it like a factory floor open for direct public engagement, so people can come do some work, unqualified, just by visiting it...? Would one get special coins or tickets for work, that one could spend on the coffee shop and supermarket? Or, is it something different?
How would this actually work with varying number of people coming to visit it, and varying work skills? Would these be web-based, or local physical works? How would such place be managed to function properly?
是的!這些工作不需要太多培訓。爲某人煮咖啡很容易。堆疊貨架很容易,但工作很辛苦。
這將是當地的體力勞動。會有人,故意不稱爲經理,會提供指導和簡單的培訓。
我想知道它是否可以民主管理。
Yes! These jobs don't require much training. Making a coffee for someone is easy. Stacking shelves is easy but hard work.
It would be local physical work. There would be people, deliberately not called managers who would provide guidance and simple training.
I wonder if it could be democratically managed.
// 是的!這些工作不需要太多培訓。爲某人煮咖啡很容易。堆疊貨架很容易,但工作很辛苦。
我明白這是怎麼回事。比如開個基地?我知道 what 我們需要基地,有一羣 HiveCells 將到達工作和一個picknick。
// Yes! These jobs don't require much training. Making a coffee for someone is easy. Stacking shelves is easy but hard work.
I see where this is going. Like opening a base? I know what we'll need bases for, there's a fleet of HiveCells that'll arrive for work and a picknick.
// open for direct public engagement, so people can come do some work, unqualified, just by visiting it...?
I like the low barrier of entry in this idea. It reminds me cooperatives (all members share profit) and community gardens (come to work anytime, with no money earned though, just for community bonding).
I guess people would want to do the work without prior training, but would it be enough work for all who want it? Say a coffee shop needs 5 people to serve coffee, then what do other 50 people work as? And what if 10 people want to work at the same time?
Overall, this idea seems to be about people's freedom to create jobs for themselves when they feel like working. So I wonder, what other work could be imagined in such local economies? I think adding a layer of meaning would make this idea stronger. What do people in local communities need? Based on needs various spaces with various jobs could be created. Say, local communities decide they want more beautiful spaces to enjoy nature in their neighbourhoods, so they design gardens and do the planting together, or restablish wilderness parks, or create makerspaces to play with the tools, marketplaces to sell what they make, and so on.
A question comes here on how would people locally self-organise to work on creating these spaces together? So that they could work in these spaces when they feel like it after.
You could have a website where people register their interest to work on a certain day and then random number people are picked. That's for the case there being 50 people wanting to work but only 5 spaces.
It might have to be just in time scheduling so it's always the day before that the schedule gets set. It might be inconvenient. You've got a lot of people chasing a few jobs.
Could have nailbars, landscaping services, bars, restaurants.